Go! And Find Me The Trinity. (Ai)

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[Editor’s note; Ai appears in the title because this post features some Ai search material not because it has been written by Ai. Other posts of this blog that do not indicate Ai have no Ai search material therein.]

Jesus drew near to them and said to them: To me has been given all power in heaven and earth. Go and teach them to carry out all the things which I have commanded you forever.” Matthew 28:18-20 Shem Tob Version

So there it is, the contentious verse Matthew 28:19 from the controversial Hebrew Shem Tob. Yet, while the Shem Tob itself is controversial for being a late comer in the scripture translation game, is this particular rendering of Matthew 28:19 really that controversial? Despite the late arrival of the translation, one has to ask from what source was the translator working? Given that he was Jewish, would he have had any need to spice up this verse in support of a trinity theology? Just for our benefit here is a little bit about the author and a snippet from the translation:

“Shem-Tob ben Isaac Ibn Shaprut was the author of an anti-Christian religious treatise, The Touchstone, completed in 1380 and revised in 1385 and 1400. Often referred to as “The Logic of Shem Tob”, it argues against the belief that Jesus is God. It also argues against attributing the role of Messiah to Jesus.  …Shem Tob’s Hebrew Gospel of Matthew, which is included in this work, is considered the oldest surviving text of a New Testament book in Hebrew.”

Did you catch that? The Hebrew Shem Tob is the oldest surviving text of a New Testament book in Hebrew. Folks, all New Testament scriptures were written in Greek and this, the ‘oldest’ surviving work in Hebrew was, wait for it, completed in 1380AD. Folks, that’s not old. That’s 1380 years AFTER the death of Jesus Christ! If this is not a screaming case of ‘Hebrew Idolatry’ I don’t know what is. Once again, the stumbling block – if it’s Hebrew it trumps everything! This is indeed the very poison in the well.

Nonetheless, the Shem Tob is interesting because it omits one particular verse that is crucial to the ‘Trinity’ doctrine that beguiles so many to this day. It is possibly simply omitted for the reason that none of the elements of the ‘Trinity’ are appreciated by the author, but it could also be for a more legitimate reason; the translation is accurate as the contentious verse is actually not there and Shem-Tob ben Isaac Ibn Shaprut having no dog in any Christian theological fight simply enjoyed a brisk moment of quick and painless transcription before getting back to more difficult verses that required greater imagination and effort in his campaign to smear and deny the divinity of Jesus Christ?

Folks, indeed one should not get too attached to particular Bibles, nor particular verses for myriad reasons and as David Bercot has noted:

“The best translation of the Bible is the one you’ll actually read.”

A simple example would be the The Lord’s Prayer:

“And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us.”

“And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.”

“And forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who sin against us.”

These are 3 different versions of Matthew 6:12 from respectively, The New Matthew Bible, The King James Bible, and The New Living Translation. Bible Hub has more. 33 editions more at last count. Freemasons eat your heart out.

At any rate, here is the King James Version of Matthew 28:19:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Folks, I don’t know about you but the ‘Amen’ is a dead giveaway. Only those fully in-doctrinated would not see it but accept it as gospel. However, even if you just compare the two verses the KJV just sounds like religious instruction and not really something Jesus Christ would have actually said. Let’s just put them side by each for comparison:

““And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” Matthew 28:19 KKJV

Jesus drew near to them and said to them: To me has been given all power in heaven and earth. Go and teach them to carry out all the things which I have commanded you forever.” Matthew 28:18-20 Shem Tob Version

No yes? Am I missing something. I invite you to read the 6 or so verses preceding these verses just to see for yourself how Roman Catholic doctrine it all sounds.

Anyway, Matthew 28:19 is the number one silver bullet in the arsenal of all those which preach the Holy Trinity. Yet, if one reads from Genesis through to Revelation it is evident that upon removal of this one pesky verse, there is no Trinity. Now, I know the case will be made that indeed a Triune god exists because a few verses can be construed to support the proposed deity, but these arguments are pitiful, so pitiful we are not going to go into them. The ravening wolves that demand your obedience to the designs of their delusion are counting on you not reading and checking for yourself! So, check away please.

Just for fun I typed this into my handy Brave Ai: ‘Did Turtullian Propose the Trinity?’ Here is what it said:

Tertullian did not create the doctrine of the Trinity from scratch, but he was the first to coin the Latin term Trinitas (Trinity) and provided the foundational terminology for the doctrine.
In his treatise Adversus Praxeam (c. AD 200), Tertullian articulated the core framework that would later define Nicene orthodoxy:
  • Terminology: He introduced the key Latin concepts of one substance (substantia) and three persons (personae). 
  • Distinction: He argued that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct persons yet share a single divine substance, countering Modalism (which claimed God was one person appearing in different modes). 
  • Limitations: While he anticipated the Trinity, his view was subordinationist (viewing the Son as derived from and subordinate to the Father) and lacked the later Nicene concept of eternal generation, meaning his theology was not fully identical to the final orthodox definition established at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.”

So, there ya go folks. Indeed the ‘Trinity is a reasoned and politically agreed religious load of the finest man-made hash going.

Since the word of God was received and put down, errors, intentional or otherwise naturally came into the successive versions. Even ‘Holy Bible’ itself is misleading. It translates from ‘Helios Byblos’. ‘Helios’ = Sun. ‘Byblos’ was the city where printing of the books took place. Thus, ‘Holy Bible’ translates as ‘Sun Book’. Why ‘Sun Book’? Is there a sun worship cult buried within the Roman Church? A quick look at Christmas and the solar events surrounding the origins of the festival would certainly support the suggestion.

Dear reader, if we are keeping our eyes wide shut we have to recognise the simple and sad fact that many people and institutions have sought, and to this day seek, to conjure their own wild ideas out of the scriptures.

So, let’s ask a simple question. If Jesus is The Son of God The Father, where would those that oppose or hate Him like to sow deception in order to most effectively mislead people?

If you said: ‘On the lips of Christ’, you win! I don’t actually have any great prize for you but The Father might?

It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out that getting this deception in writing would be priority number one no yes?

So, below is a desktop still from the Walter Veith presentation linked below, that shows various pre-Christ Pagan ‘Trinities’.

Now the thing that stumped me for awhile about Mr. Veith, was that after figuring out the trickery of Vatican Rome, whereby Mary was made the wife of God and Christ the Son so as to continue the pagan formula you see above (Lord of Heaven, Queen of Heaven, Messiah), Mr. Veith still declared faith in a ‘Trinity’. What gives? Well, what gives is this. Walter Veith is a Seventh Day Adventist; Protestant. Protestants being effectively offshoots or branches from the main Roman Catholic tree have specific and peculiar points of theology upon which their denomination is founded. This is why there are so many denominations and why they bicker and squabble like grumbling dwarves while loosely dragging along behind ‘Mother Church’  like cans behind a wedding car.  For Mr. Veith,  the ‘Trinity’ consists of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, NOT Father, Mother & Son! According to him, this is the correct Trinity, as opposed to that corrupt Catholic rubbish! Lol

“But, isn’t that accurate?” I hear you ask.

It’s right here in Matthew 28:19!” I hear you demand.

Well, it may seem more sane and accurate than the Vatican’s obvious re-packaged paganism, except that it isn’t that accurate after all. As I have mentioned above, remove the contentious verse Matthew 28:19 and where good reader does this third superhero deity exist?

Yet, it gets worse. Regarding this ‘Trinity’ one simply needs to let their fingers do the walking and investigate the myriad declarations of various Protestant churches and faith group websites and you will see for yourself, that 1) Matthew 28:19 is paramount and 2) this means the Godhead is either a trinity of 3 superheroes or one deity which, appears in 3 ways and you can see why people are confused!

Now, let’s ask a few basic questions. First, if this so-called ‘Trinity’ were real don’t you think you’d actually find evidence of these three deities in equal interplay throughout the Scriptures? Second, were the disciples of Christ into being wayward or disobedient? Why did they baptise in the name of Christ alone and not in the name of any ‘Trinity’? Third, why would Christ instruct a Matthew 28:19 Trinity baptism when neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit were crucified; only He, Jesus Christ was? Only Jesus Christ died for our salvation. Only through Him can anyone be saved. The following verse lays it out clearly. Why be baptised in the name of a ‘Trinity’ when it is explained so succinctly by Paul?

“Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?” 1 Corinthians 1:13 New International Version

So, if you have ever been instructed to understand the Holy Spirit as some third deity buzzing about helping God and doing His work, yet never really being revealed or speaking, what happens when we get here:

“Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Acts 2:38 NKJV

Does that mean the Holy Spirit will show up with a box wrapped in fancy paper, ribbon and bow with something special inside just for you? Here is a more recent version that clarifies:

“Peter answered them, “Every one of you must repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus the Messiah for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift.” Acts 2:38 International Standard Version

No yes? There is no confusing what is going on in this ISV rendering. This is exactly the crux of the matter; Holy Spirit is bestowed by The Father upon the individual being baptised into the death of Jesus Christ rendering the recipient a transformed individual; redeemed in the eyes of The Father. However, try to find a church today that offers baptism in Christ’s name only and understands the concept of receiving the Holy Spirit as a gift from God and call me when you do. They are rare as hen’s teeth. (Just for the record, I was given a very hostile rebuking by a particularly entrenched religious fellow just the other day for suggesting no ‘Trinity’! It’s rough out there folks.)

Now, another major problem with the KJV in its original rendering is the use of the word ‘He’ instead of ‘It’ when treating the Holy Spirit. Which, is exactly why I was given a good telling off the other day, because ‘The Holy Spirit is a ‘He’!

Combined with the ridiculous use of Holy Ghost instead of Holy Spirit, this really seems to set the story on it’s ear and gives it a rather Shakespearian feel, as if the ghost of Hamlet were lurking about when clearly we are dealing with the Spirit of God. (When I was young I used to get an image in my mind of Jacob Marley from Dickens ‘A Christmas Carol’!) New editions of the KJV seem to have cleaned up much of this confusion by using Holy Spirit instead of Holy Ghost. However, the ‘He’ business still lurks within its’ pages, which, can only mean the priesthood commands this nonsense. Of course this is one of the most basic translation errors possible. When conjugating verbs, third person singular tense always refers to he/she/it. So why the ‘He’ when ‘It’ should clearly be used? Was that just a silly mistake? Or did the translators imagine, perhaps correctly that they could get away with such nonsense because the majority of people wouldn’t do the checking but just accept whatever they were told and repeat ‘Yes, sir. No, sir. Three bags full’! So, what’s up with this little translation error? What wicked little game is being played at the heart of the ‘Sun Book’? How much nonsense and violent threat have people been reproached with due to the insistence on ‘He’ instead of ‘It’?

So, having said all of that – go! Please, go find me this ‘Trinity’ because you won’t find it. Find me this ‘Trinity’ somewhere, anywhere in the Scriptures and I don’t mean to extend to you an invitation to recite robotic pap. I mean show me how The Holy Spirit is a third person that makes it’s own decisions and has its own domain, because you won’t find it. What you will find is that The Holy Spirit clearly is an ‘it’, a force given by God, which, you dear reader may be lucky enough to receive if you are ready to repent of your sins and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ.

“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:” Matthew 3:16

“O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” Galatians 3:1-3 KJV

(For an interesting example of how scripture translation gets wild, see the below link to SDA Walter Veith doing a thorough job tearing a strip off the Douay-Rheims Bible in comparison with the KJV; he tours through omitted passage after omitted passage, changed verses, different words and more. Sadly, he did not get into how either of these bibles compare to the Septuagint LXX with their corrupt Masoretic Text as the basis for their Old Testament sections. Another time perhaps.)

Link: https://amazingdiscoveries.tv/c/2/Total_Onslaught_-_English/

POST-SCRIPT

Recently, having had occasion to research Pentecost, I thought a quick reference would be suitable here:

“And in the day of the Pentecost being fulfilled, they were all with one accord at the same place, and there came suddenly out of the heaven a sound as of a bearing violent breath, and it filled all the house where they were sitting, and there appeared to them divided tongues, as it were of fire; it sat also upon each one of them, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, according as the Spirit was giving them to declare.” Acts 2:1-4 Young’s Literal Translation (Underline mine)

Folks, how hard does it have to be? Here it is in Pentecost, that they were ‘filled with Holy Spirit’. yet, still the religions crank out the Third Deity nonsense without hesitation. The contradictions are staggering but apparently no one notices. The mental compartmentalisation is thorough and complete. The robotic recitation of whatever the priest says is automatic. The show goes on. Delusional and sad.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things? and then I will acknowledge to them, that — I never knew you, depart from me ye who are working lawlessness.” Matthew 7:22:23 Young’s Literal Translation

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